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AFTER THE FIRE

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(13 Feb 2010) digital track Here on My Island

  1. Here on My Island [Live] 13.10
"The legendary song from the early days of AFTER THE FIRE. You can hear forerunners of sections of songs like the middle bit of Back to the Light. Live recording of medium quality, unmastered. This is a 13:31 minute song, so please be generous!"

https://roughmix.bandcamp.com/track/here-on-my-island

(20 Oct 2017) digital EP Kindling

  1. Psalm 5.04 [A live recording of a rare AFTER THE FIRE prog-rock style instrumental - pretty crappy quality warning!]
  2. Sonshine Time 5.13 [Early AFTER THE FIRE song recorded at Neale's Yard Studios, Covent Garden. Some distortion where the levels are too high.]
  3. Choice 6.18 [Another Live recording of AFTER THE FIRE in full flow, some of out of tune Moog to Marvel at!]
"Collection of early songs."

https://roughmix.bandcamp.com/album/kindling

(20 June 2025) 6-CD Box BRIGHT LIGHTS (1974-1983)


April 1978 LP (+ CD) SIGNS OF CHANGE

  1. Dance of the Marionette 7.00 (Piercy/Banks)
  2. Back to the Light 4.00 (Piercy/Banks)
  3. Now That I've Found 8.10 (Piercy/Banks)

  4. Signs of Change 8.04 (Piercy/Banks)
  5. Jigs 2.58 (Piercy)
  6. Pilgrim 11.22 (Piercy/Banks) (LP 1978: Rapid Records, RR 001)

    Extra tracks 2004 & 2011 CD & CD 1 in 2025 6-CD "BRIGHT LIGHTS (1974-1983)":

  7. Samaritan Woman 11.01 (Piercy/Banks) [previously unreleased; recorded 1974/75]
  8. Dreamaway 9.50 (Piercy/Banks) [previously unreleased SIGNS OF CHANGE out-take]
  9. Hallelujah 6.31 (Banks) [first track ever that ATF recorded ca 1974]
  10. Back to the Light (Demo Version) 6.09 (Piercy/Banks) (CD Dec 2004: Roughmix 985900-3; CD 2011: Angel Air SJPCD361)
Main LP recorded at ICC Studios, Eastbourne, Sussex. Peter Banks: Hammond C3 [organ], Mini Moog, Crumar Multiman, Piano, vocals. Nick Battle: Bass, vocals. Andy Piercy: Vocals, acoustic and electric guitars, tambourine. Ivor Twidell: drums.

Samaritan Woman & Hallelujah recorded at Theatre Projects Neals Yard Studio.


(20 June 2025) 6-CD Box BRIGHT LIGHTS (1974-1983)

4 May 1979 7" One Rule for You
    One Rule for You 3.24 (Piercy/Banks) / Joy 3.16 (Piercy/Twidell/Russel/Banks) (CBS, S CBS 7025)
Peter Banks: synthesizers and vocals. Andy Piercy: bass and lead vocals. Ivor Twidell: drums. John Russell: guitar and vocals. Produced by Rupert Hine.

3 Aug 1979 7" Laser Love

    Laser Love 3.30 (Piercy/Banks) / Your Love Is Alive 3.13 (Piercy/Banks) (CBS, S CBS 7769)
Side A produced by Muff Winwood and Rhett Davies, side B produced by Muff Winwood.

Sep 1979 LP/MC LASER LOVE

    LP:
  1. Laser Love 3.28 (Piercy/Banks) [produced by Muff Winwood & Rhett Davies]
  2. Joy 3.17 (Piercy/Twidell/Russel/Banks) [produced by Rupert Hine]
  3. Take Me Higher 4.31 (Piercy/Banks) [produced by Muff Winwood]
  4. Life in the City 4.02 (Piercy/Banks) [produced by After the Fire]
  5. Suspended Animation 4.52 (Piercy/Banks) [produced by Muff Winwood]

  6. Like the Power of a Jet 3.07 (Piercy/Banks) [produced by Muff Winwood]
  7. One Rule for You 3.24 (Piercy/Banks) [produced by Rupert Hine]
  8. Time to Think 3.28 (Piercy/Banks) [produced by Muff Winwood & Rhett Davies]
  9. Timestar 4.36 (Banks) [produced by Muff Winwood]
  10. Check It Out 3.21 (Piercy/Banks) [produced by John Leckie] (CBS, CBS 83795)
    MC:
  1. Laser Love 3.28 (Piercy/Banks)
  2. Joy 3.17 (Piercy/Twidell/Russel/Banks)
  3. Take Me Higher 4.31 (Piercy/Banks)
  4. Life in the City 4.13 (Piercy/Banks)
  5. Check It Out 3.21 (Piercy/Banks)

  6. Like the Power of a Jet 3.07 (Piercy/Banks)
  7. One Rule for You 3.24 (Piercy/Banks)
  8. Time to Think 3.28 (Piercy/Banks)
  9. Timestar 4.36 (Banks)
  10. Suspended Animation 4.52 (Piercy/Banks) (CBS, 40-83795)
    CD 3 in 2025 6-CD "BRIGHT LIGHTS (1974-1983)": LASER LOVE
  1. Laser Love 3.28 (Piercy/Banks) [produced by Muff Winwood & Rhett Davies]
  2. Joy 3.17 (Piercy/Twidell/Russel/Banks) [produced by Rupert Hine]
  3. Take Me Higher 4.31 (Piercy/Banks) [produced by Muff Winwood]
  4. Life in the City 4.02 (Piercy/Banks) [produced by After the Fire]
  5. Suspended Animation 4.52 (Piercy/Banks) [produced by Muff Winwood]
  6. Like the Power of a Jet 3.07 (Piercy/Banks) [produced by Muff Winwood]
  7. One Rule for You 3.24 (Piercy/Banks) [produced by Rupert Hine]
  8. Time to Think 3.28 (Piercy/Banks) [produced by Muff Winwood & Rhett Davies]
  9. Timestar 4.34 (Banks) [produced by Muff Winwood]
  10. Check It Out 3.21 (Piercy/Banks) [produced by John Leckie]
    Bonus tracks:
  11. Your Love Is Alive 3.13 (Piercy/Banks) [produced by Muff Winwood] [B-side Laser Love, 1979]
  12. Life in the City 4.09 [Extended 12" Remix] (Piercy/Banks) [produced by Tony Mansfield]
  13. Listen to Me 3.22 (Piercy/Banks) [produced by After the Fire] [B-side Life in the City, 1979]
  14. One Rule For You (Live 17 Nov 1979 at the Rainbow) 4.32 [give-away 7" handed out for free at live gigs in early 1980]
  15. Time to Think (Live 17 Nov 1979 at the Rainbow) 3.46 [give-away 7" handed out for free at live gigs in early 1980]
  16. Take Me Higher (Live 14 Nov 1980 at the Rainbow) 7.47 [B-side 12" Frozen Rivers, 1981]
23 Nov 1979 7"/12" Life in the City
    Life in the City 3.08 [Single Remix by Tony Mansfield] (Piercy/Banks) / Listen to Me 3.22 (Piercy/Banks) [produced by After the Fire] (7": CBS 8057)

    Life in the City 4.02 (Piercy/Banks) [Extended Remix by Tony Mansfield] //
    Listen to Me (Live 17 Nov 1979 at the Rainbow) 3.27 / Laser Love (Live 17 Nov 1979 at the Rainbow) 3.25 / Power of a Jet (Live 17 Nov 1979 at the Rainbow) 3.48 (12": CBS 12 8057)

Live tracks recorded at The Rainbow, Finsbury Park, London, 17 Nov 1979.

(early 1980) give-away white label live 7" [Live at the Rainbow 17 Nov 1979]

    One Rule For You (Live 17 Nov 1979 at the Rainbow) 4.32 / Time to Think (Live 17 Nov 1979 at the Rainbow) 3.46 (CBS, XPS 101)
Handed out for free at live gigs in early 1980.

(31 Jan 2005) limited bonus CD-R in "DER KOMMISSAR: THE CBS RECORDINGS" After the Fire

  1. Love Will Always Make You Cry 6.01 [early rehearsal]
  2. Another World 3.38 [early rough mix]
  3. Satellite in Orbit 3.21 [rough mix]
  4. Operator 3.56 [demo version]
  5. Little Sun, Little Rain (Laser Love Outtake) 3.06
  6. Helpless (Laser Love Outtake) 2.08
Tracks 1-4 recorded at Tooting Music Centre. Tracks 5-6 recorded at Denmark Street Studios, London.

Info on track 5 "Little Sun, Little Rain" from the info sheet: "Recorded in Soho, London. I seem to recall it was quite a small studio. This and 'Help' were recorded along with a load os songs that did make it onto 'Laser Love' just before we signed to CBS and they paid us to go and record a handful of songs. In 2 days we recorded about 15 songs and I remember them complaining they only wanted us to come up with 3 or 4! We were so practised as a band we just turned in and recorded our live set songs from start to finish. This song [Little Sun, Little Rain] has always been a bit of a favourite with fans and band alike. Back in those days when you could only squeeze a certain time per side on vinyl it became the one that got away and was never released until now!"

Info on track 6 "Helpless" from the info sheet: "Clever eared folk will have realised this is the bridging instrumental break in our live performances of the Lennon/McCartney classic, Help! We were restricted from using the full version with the vocal section as this was to be a special freebie Bonus CD. I called upon the skills of Peter J Dixon who created this Aggressive Rhubard edit for us in January 2005. Originally recorded in the same session as 'Little Sun' and didn't make it past the selection committee."

https://www.discogs.com/release/30258452-After-The-Fire-Der-Kommissar-The-CBS-Recordings-Limited-Edition-250-Copies-Bonus-CD

It seems that absolutely no-one has these tracks!


25 April 1980 planned but withdrawn 7" Love Will Always Make You Cry [Tony Mansfield version]

    Love Will Always Make You Cry 3.23 (Piercy/Banks) [Tony Mansfield Single Edit] / Every Mother's Son 2.30 (Russell/Brotherwood) (promo 7": Epic, S EPC 8394)
Both tracks produced by Tony Mansfield. This original version of 'Love Will Always Make You Cry' was only pressed as a promo single, and the single was withdrawn.

April/May ca 1980 test pressing/promo 7" [80-f Four Track Sampler]

    Starflight 2.05 [Excerpt] / Love Will Always Make You Cry 1.53 [Excerpt] // It's High Fashion 1.18 [Excerpt] / 1980-F 1.47 [Excerpt] (CBS, XPS 104)
Excerpts from four of the tracks on the forthcoming (unreleased) LP, produced by Tony Mansfield.

May 1980 planned but withdrawn LP (+ partially on CD 2025) 80-F [Tony Mansfield version]

  1. Starflight 4.24 [an edited version of the full-length unreleased (5.45) original version]
  2. It's High Fashion 3.18
  3. Another World 3.36
  4. Can You Face It? 3.19 [unreleased]
  5. Operator 3.45
  1. Love Will Always Make You Cry 4.00 [Full Length Album Version]
  2. 1980-F 2.36
  3. Satellite in Orbit 3.18
  4. Who's Gonna Love You [unreleased]
  5. Billy Billy [unreleased]
  6. Starflight Reprise [unreleased]
Tony Mansfield produced this LP in early 1980, engineered by Pete Hammond at the T.M.C. Studios, Tooting, England.

Peter Banks told in the liner notes to the 2025 6-CD Box "Bright Lights - 1974-1983": "We started working on '80-f' and this would turn out to be one of the low spots for the band, one that we try and not focus on! Having chosen our own producer, Tony Mansfield of New Musik fame, we went into his local studio [T.M.C. Studios] in South London and recorded with Nick Brotherwood on drums. The album was mastered, sleeve design complete and even some [copies] pressed up when we were called into the CBS boardroom and informed it would be dropped. We were simply told it was not good enough and we needed to go away and write three 'hit singles' to replace some of the tracks on the album."

This planned tracklist is revealed on a test pressing: https://www.discogs.com/release/15004826-After-The-Fire-80-f

"This acetate is a proto version of the album that became 80-f, recorded by Tony Mansfield before April 1980. Nick Brotherwood provided Drums as Ivor Twydell had left at the end of 1979. When completed, the album was presented to CBS, who rejected it. They subsequently sent the band off to Germany, with ex-Fly's drummer Peter King, to complete the album with producer Mack, who rebuilt the album. Three songs were dropped (Another World / Operator / Satellite In Orbit) and three new songs were added (Wild West Show / Why Can't We Be Friends / Joanne). Also dropped was the reprise of Starflight. T"

Tony Mansfield also produced another track "Why Can't We Be Friends" during these sessions.

In 2025 seven of these unreleased Tony Mansfield-produced tracks were finally released in the 6-CD Box "After the Fire: Bright Lights - 1974-1983: Starflight, It's High Fashion, Another World, Operator, Love Will Always Make You Cry, 1980-F and Satellite in Orbit (leaving out Can You Face It?, Who's Gonna Love You, Billy Billy, Starflight Reprise and Why Can't We Be Friends).

(31 Jan 2005) limited bonus CD-R in "DER KOMMISSAR: THE CBS RECORDINGS" After the Fire

  1. Love Will Always Make You Cry 6.01 [early rehearsal]
  2. Another World 3.38 [early rough mix]
  3. Satellite in Orbit 3.21 [rough mix]
  4. Operator 3.56 [demo version]
  5. Little Sun, Little Rain (Laser Love Outtake) 3.06
  6. Helpless (Laser Love Outtake) 2.08
Tracks 1-4 recorded at Tooting Music Centre. Tracks 5-6 recorded at Denmark Street Studios, London.

Info on track 1 "Love Will Always Make You Cry" from the info sheet: "Recorded early 1980 just after Ivor had left the band. This therefore features Nick on drums and I think it is a great version! I love the fact that the playing is exuberant, we are clearly enjoying playing the song as indicated by the number of repeats at the end! The take is an early rehearlsal take during the sessions that would lead to the first version on the 80-f album. We have left all the blips and blops at the beginning so shows how we start up and get into the groove before the song starts and the vocals come in. Would love to try and remember the variation I played in the first few bars!"

Info on track 2 "Another World" from the info sheet: "This was one of the first songs to get written for 80-f along with the up tempo 1980-f instrumental. In fact the play on words on 1980-f was the title we were desperately trying to think of in 1979 for Timestar as the new decade approached. So we thought of it too late and I had the idea of the 80-f and for ages our press department at CBS never understood it! Another World features classic Andy Piercy lyrics with their wonderful dual meaning - look deeper and you find a whole lot more! Quite moody and emotional this is an early rough mix from the 80-f recordings."

Info on track 3 "Satellite in Orbit" from the info sheet: "What can I say about this one! Thrash power pop....? Another rough mix of a song that wasn't to make it in the end. Listening now there are quite a few links lyrically that tie it to those early 80s. Nice change into the middle bridge section and some wicked use of the wonderful Yamaha CS-80 Ring Modulator controls (for the technies!)."

Info on track 4 "Operator" from the info sheet: "How anachronistic this song is! Having spent time listening and checking through a lot of the ATF catalogue recently I generally feel our stuff is not dated. Operator, however, is an obvious exception. It is SO Buggles! This is a version we recorded in readiness for our 2nd CBS album and is clearly influenced by the times. Interestingly this demo was only recorded weeks after Video Killed the Radio Star was released, but the influence is clear. Tony Mansfield was a massive Buggles fan and that influence can also be heard in the New Musik repetoire. I remember we spent ages recording the telephone itself, we didn't use a sound effect, then we altered the speed and recorded the telephone again to give a slightly different pitch. Nowadays it would just be a 10 minute job."

https://www.discogs.com/release/30258452-After-The-Fire-Der-Kommissar-The-CBS-Recordings-Limited-Edition-250-Copies-Bonus-CD

It seems that absolutely no-one has these tracks!

(20 June 2025) 6-CD Box BRIGHT LIGHTS (1974-1983)


22 Aug 1980 7" Love Will Always Make You Cry [Mack version]

    Love Will Always Make You Cry 3.34 (Piercy/Banks) / Why Can't We Be Friends 3.48 (Piercy/Banks/Russell/King) (Epic, EPC 8942)
'Love Will Always Make You Cry' produced by Mack, 'Why Can't We Be Friends' produced by After the Fire (it has audience sounds added to it to make it sound like a live version).

24 Oct 1980 LP/MC 80-F [Mack version]

  1. 1980-F 2.32 (Banks)
  2. Love Will Always Make You Cry 3.30 (Piercy/Banks)
  3. Can You Face It? 3.15 (Piercy/Banks)
  4. Who's Gonna Love You (When You're Old and Fat and Ugly)? 4.05 (Piercy/Banks)
  5. Starflight 4.13 (Piercy/Banks)

  6. Wild West Show 3.30 (Piercy/Banks) [a newly recorded track]
  7. Billy, Billy 4.40 (Piercy/Banks)
  8. It's High Fashion 3.07 (Piercy/Banks/Russell)
  9. Why Can't We Be Friends? 2.46 (Piercy/Banks/Russel/King)
  10. Joanne 4.10 (Piercy/Banks) [a newly recorded track] (Epic, EPC 84545 / EPC 40-84545)

    Extra tracks CD 4 in 2025 6-CD "BRIGHT LIGHTS (1974-1983):

  11. Why Can't We Be Friends 3.48 (Piercy/Banks/Russell/King) [produced by ATF] [B-side Love Will Always Make You Cry, 1980]
  12. Wild West Show (7" version) 3.43 [produced by Mack]
  13. Billy, Billy (Live 14 Nov 1980 at the Rainbow) 6.45 [B-side 12" Rich Boys, 1982]
Produced, mixed and engineered by Mack at Utopia Studios, London. 1,3,5,7,8 "original recordings by Tony Mansfield" [= Mack used his productions but re-mixed them and added extra instruments and production]

24 Oct 1980 7" Wild West Show

    Wild West Show 3.49 [13 seconds longer than LP version] (Piercy/Banks) / Every Mother's Son 2.30 (Russell/Brotherwood) (Epic, EPC 9095)
Side A produced by Mac, side B produced by Tony Mansfield.

Note that this single version of Wild West Show is the original full length recording, which was then edited for the album by omitting 13 seconds (the repeat chorus part from 0:51 seconds to 1:04).

Oct 1980 German 7" 1980-F

    1980-F 2.32 (Banks) / Joanne 4.10 (Piercy/Banks) (Epic, EPC 9525)


(10 Feb 2010) digital album BUILDING BATTERIES

  1. Low Lights 5.22 [Rehearsal tapes of AFTER THE FIRE recorded in Scarf Studios somewhere near East Ham]
  2. Poor Boys 3.22 [Rehearsal instrumental from AFTER THE FIRE]
  3. Rapid Rivers 4.12
  4. Sailing Boat 4.23 [Instrumental by AFTER THE FIRE]
  5. Caribou 2.19 [Rehearsal Instrumental of an Instrumental by AFTER THE FIRE]
  6. Stuck in Portsmouth 4.34 [Rehearsal instrumental from AFTER THE FIRE]
  7. Everytime 2.11 [Rehearsal instrumental track from AFTER THE FIRE]
  8. Jonah 1.30 [Rehearsal instrumental from AFTER THE FIRE]
Most likely early recordings for the LP "BATTERIES NOT INCLUDED".

https://roughmix.bandcamp.com/album/building-batteries

June/July 1981 7" Dancing in the Shadows

    Dancing in the Shadows (Piercy/Banks) / Nobody Else But You (Piercy/Banks) (Epic, EPC A1378)
Peter 'Memory' Banks: synthesizers, piano, vocals. Pete King: drums. Andy Piercy: vocals, bass. John Russell: guitar, vocals. Produced by Mack.

Sep 1981 7"/12" Frozen Rivers

    Frozen Rivers 3.15 / Starflight 4.55 [Live 14 Nov 1980 at the Rainbow] (7": Epic, EPC A1613)

    Frozen Rivers // Starflight 4.55 [Live 14 Nov 1980 at the Rainbow] / Take Me Higher 8.00 [Live 14 Nov 1980 at the Rainbow] (12": EPC A 13- 1613)

Peter 'Memory' Banks: synthesizers, piano, vocals. Pete King: drums. Andy Piercy: vocals, bass. John Russell: guitar, vocals. Side A produced by Mack.

(2009) live CD RADIO SESSIONS 1979-1981

    1979 In Concert
  1. Joy
  2. A Little Sun, a Little Rain
  3. Laser Love
  4. Time to Think
  5. One Rule for You
  6. Suspended Animation
  7. Check It Out
  8. Like the Power of a Jet
    1980 In Concert
  9. Laser Love
  10. Life in the City
  11. Can You Face It?
  12. Who's Gonna Love You?
  13. Billy Billy
    1981 In Concert
  14. Frozen Rivers
  15. Dancing in the Shadows
  16. Sailing Ship
  17. Bright Lights
  18. Take Me Higher
  19. Starlight (Angel Air Records, SJPCD301)
All tracks recorded at The BBC Paris Theatre, London, England.

Feb 1982 7"/12" Rich Boys

    Rich Boys 3.02 (Piercy/Banks) / One Rule for You (Live 14 Nov at the Rainbow 1980) 4.35 (7": CBS, A 1951)

    Rich Boys 3.02 (Piercy/Banks) // One Rule for You (Live 14 Nov at the Rainbow 1980) 4.35 / Billy Billy (Live 14 Nov at the Rainbow 1980) (12": CBS A 13 1951)

Side A produced by Mack.

24 March 1982 LP/MC BATTERIES NOT INCLUDED

  1. Short Change 3.19 (Piercy/Banks)
  2. Frozen Rivers 3.36 (Piercy/Banks)
  3. Sometimes 3.08 (Piercy/Banks/Russell)
  4. Sailing Ship 3.57 (Piercy/Banks)
  5. I Don't Understand Your Love 2.53 (Piercy/Banks)
  6. The Stranger 3.45 (Piercy/Banks)

  7. Rich Boys 3.02 (Piercy/Banks)
  8. Carry Me Home 3.23 (Piercy/Banks)
  9. Dancing in the Shadows 3.02 (Piercy/Banks)
  10. Space Walking 3.17 (Piercy/Banks)
  11. Gina 1.39 (Piercy/Banks)
  12. Stuck in Paris (Nowhere to Go) 2.45 (Banks/King)
  13. Bright Lights 3.36 (Piercy/Banks) (CBS, 85566 / 40-85566)

    Extra tracks CD 5 in 2025 6-CD "BRIGHT LIGHTS (1974-1983):

  14. Nobody Else But You 3.13 (Piercy/Banks) [produced by Mack] [B-side Dancing in the Shadows, 1981]
  15. Starflight (Live 14 Nov 1980 at the Rainbow) 4.51 [B-side Frozen Rivers, 1981]
Main LP produced by Mack.


1982 Dutch 12" Sternenflug

    Sternenflug 4.23 (Piercy/Banks) // Dancing in the Shadows 3.02 [from BATTERIES NOT INCLUDED] / 1980-F 2.32 [from 80-F] (Epic EPCA 12.2337)
"Sternenflug" produced by ATF & John Eden.

19 June 1982 7"/12" Der Kommissar

    Der Kommissar (Robert Pongo/Falco) 4.07 / Nobody Else But You 3.13 (Piercy/Banks) (7": CBS A2399)

    Der Kommissar (Specially Extended Remixed Version by John Eden/Peter Banks) 5.44 / Nobody Else But You 3.13 (12": CBS A 132399)

    Der Kommissar [US Remix by Bruce Harris/Gregg Winter/Jane Brinton] 4.53 / Der Kommissar (Specially Extended Remixed Version by John Eden/Peter Banks) 5.43 (US 12": Epic 49-03490)

"Der Kommissar" is a cover version of the famous Falco song, produced by John Eden & ATF. "Nobody Else But You" was produceed by Mack, and was first released in 1981 as B-side to Dancing in the Shadows.

later 1982 UK/European coll-LP/MC (+ CD) DER KOMMISSAR

  1. Der Kommissar 4.07 [Single 1982]
  2. Who's Gonna Love You (When You're Old and Fat and Ugly)? 4.05 [from 80-F, 1980]
  3. Frozen Rivers 3.36 [from BATTERIES NOT INCLUDED, 1982]
  4. Joy 3.17 [from LASER LOVE, 1979]
  5. Dancing in the Shadows 3.02 [from BATTERIES NOT INCLUDED, 1982]
  6. Billy Billy 4.40 [from 80-F, 1980]

  7. 1980-F 2.32 [from 80-F, 1980]
  8. Rich Boys 3.02 [from BATTERIES NOT INCLUDED, 1982]
  9. Starflight 4.13 [from 80-F, 1980]
  10. Laser Love 3.28 [from LASER LOVE, 1979]
  11. Love Will Always Make You Cry 3.30 [from 80-F, 1980]
  12. One Rule for You 3.24 [from LASER LOVE, 1979]
  13. Sailing Ship 3.57 [from BATTERIES NOT INCLUDED, 1982] (UK LP: CBS 25227; UK MC: CBS 40-25227; UK/European CD 1995: Columbia 480973 2)
later 1982 European reissue 7" Dancing in the Shadows
    Dancing in the Shadows 3.02 / Sailing Ship 3.57 (CBS A-2871)
"Taken from the album Der Kommissar."

later 1982 US/Canadian coll-LP/MC (+ CD) DER KOMMISSAR

  1. Laser Love 3.26 [from LASER LOVE, 1979]
  2. One Rule for You 3.24 [from LASER LOVE, 1979]
  3. Dancing in the Shadows 3.02 [from BATTERIES NOT INCLUDED, 1982]
  4. Sometimes 3.07 [from BATTERIES NOT INCLUDED, 1982]
  5. Sailing Ship 3.55 [from BATTERIES NOT INCLUDED, 1982]
  6. Carry Me Home 3.22 [from BATTERIES NOT INCLUDED, 1982]

  7. Frozen Rivers 3.36 [from BATTERIES NOT INCLUDED, 1982]
  8. Love Will Always Make You Cry 3.30 [from 80-F, 1980]
  9. Starflight 3.46 [an edit of the original Tony Mansfield produced version from 1980]
  10. Der Kommissar 4.07 [Single 1982]
  11. 1980-F 2.32 [from 80-F, 1980] (US LP: Epic FE 38282)
    Extra track on MC:
  12. Der Kommissar [Dub 4:51] [= "US Remix by Bruce Harris/Gregg Winter/Jane Brinton" ?] (US MC: Epic FET 38282)
    2001 US CD:
  1. Laser Love 3.26 [from LASER LOVE, 1979]
  2. One Rule for You 3.17 [from LASER LOVE, 1979]
  3. Dancing in the Shadows 3.14 [from BATTERIES NOT INCLUDED, 1982]
  4. Sometimes 3.06 [from BATTERIES NOT INCLUDED, 1982]
  5. Sailing Ship 3.53 [from BATTERIES NOT INCLUDED, 1982]
  6. Carry Me Home 3.21 [from BATTERIES NOT INCLUDED, 1982]
  7. Frozen Rivers 3.32 [from BATTERIES NOT INCLUDED, 1982]
  8. Love Will Always Make You Cry 3.30 [from 80-F, 1980]
  9. Starflight 4.32 [reworked version]
  10. Der Kommissar (Specially Extended Remixed Version by John Eden/Peter Banks) 5.42
  11. 1980-F 2.32 [from 80-F, 1980]
  12. Der Kommissar (Dub) 4.51 [= "US Remix by Bruce Harris/Gregg Winter/Jane Brinton" ?]
  13. 3.17 [from LASER LOVE, 1979] (US CD 2001: Sony Music Special Products/Collectables, SONY A 50054 / COL-CD-6683)
1983 reissue 7" Dancing in the Shadows (Brand New Version)
    Dancing in the Shadows (Brand New Version) 3.12 / Starflight (Brand New Version) 3.16 (7": CBS, A 3455)

    Dancing in the Shadows (Brand New Version - Extended) 5.40 //
    Dancing in the Shadows (Brand New Version - Instrumental) 3.33 / Starflight ['Brand New Version' full length] 4.31 (12": TA 3455)

Produced by John Eden with Andy Piercy.

(31 Jan 2005) 2-CD DER KOMMISSAR - THE CBS RECORDINGS [1979-1983]

    LASER LOVE (1979)
  1. Laser Love 3.28 (Piercy/Banks) [produced by Muff Winwood & Rhett Davies]
  2. Joy 3.17 (Piercy/Twidell/Russel/Banks) [produced by Rupert Hine]
  3. Take Me Higher 4.31 (Piercy/Banks) [produced by Muff Winwood]
  4. Life in the City 4.01 (Piercy/Banks) [produced by After the Fire]
  5. Suspended Animation 4.52 [slightly shortened] (Piercy/Banks) [produced by Muff Winwood]
  6. Like the Power of a Jet 3.07 (Piercy/Banks) [produced by Muff Winwood]
  7. One Rule for You 3.24 (Piercy/Banks) [produced by Rupert Hine]
  8. Time to Think 3.28 (Piercy/Banks) [produced by Muff Winwood & Rhett Davies]
  9. Timestar 4.36 [slightly shortened] (Banks) [produced by Muff Winwood]
  10. Check It Out 3.21 (Piercy/Banks) [produced by John Leckie]
    Extra tracks LASER LOVE:
  11. Your Love Is Alive 3.13 (Piercy/Banks) [produced by Muff Winwood] [B-side Laser Love, 1979]
  12. Listen to Me 3.22 (Piercy/Banks) [produced by After the Fire] [B-side Life in the City, 1979]
    80-F (1980)
  13. 1980-F 2.32 (Banks)
  14. Love Will Always Make You Cry 3.30 (Piercy/Banks)
  15. Can You Face It? 3.15 (Piercy/Banks)
  16. Who's Gonna Love You (When You're Old and Fat and Ugly)? 4.05 (Piercy/Banks)
  17. Starflight 4.13 (Piercy/Banks)
  18. Wild West Show 3.30 (Piercy/Banks)
  19. Billy, Billy 4.40 (Piercy/Banks)
  20. It's High Fashion 3.07 (Piercy/Banks/Russell)
  21. Why Can't We Be Friends? 2.46 (Piercy/Banks/Russel/King)
  22. Joanne 4.10 (Piercy/Banks)
  1. Every Mother's Son 2.30 (Russell/Brotherwood) [produced by Tony Mansfield] [B-side Wild West Show, 1980]
    BATTERIES NOT INCLUDED (1982)
  2. Short Change 3.19 (Piercy/Banks)
  3. Frozen Rivers 3.36 (Piercy/Banks)
  4. Sometimes 3.08 (Piercy/Banks/Russell)
  5. Sailing Ship 3.57 (Piercy/Banks)
  6. I Don't Understand Your Love 2.53 (Piercy/Banks)
  7. The Stranger 3.45 (Piercy/Banks)
  8. Rich Boys 3.02 (Piercy/Banks)
  9. Carry Me Home 3.23 (Piercy/Banks)
  10. Dancing in the Shadows 3.02 (Piercy/Banks)
  11. Space Walking 3.17 (Piercy/Banks)
  12. Gina 1.39 (Piercy/Banks)
  13. Stuck in Paris (Nowhere to Go) 2.45 (Banks/King)
  14. Bright Lights 3.36 (Piercy/Banks)
    Bonus tracks
  15. Nobody Else But You 3.13 (Piercy/Banks) [B-side Dancing in the Shadows, 1981]
  16. Starflight (Live 14 Nov 1980 at the Rainbow) 4.51 [B-side Frozen Rivers, 1981]
  17. Take Me Higher (Live 14 Nov 1980 at the Rainbow) 7.47 [B-side 12" Frozen Rivers, 1981]
  18. One Rule for You (Live 14 Nov 1980 at the Rainbow) 4.30 [B-side Rich Boys, 1982]
  19. Billy, Billy (Live 14 Nov 1980 at the Rainbow) 6.45 [B-side 12" Rich Boys, 1982]
  20. Der Kommissar (Robert Pongo/Falco) 4.07 [Single 1982]
  21. Starflight (Re-worked) 4.31 [B-side 12" Dancing In The Shadows, 1983] (Edsel Records, MEDCD 757)


(1983) unreleased LP (+ CD 2006) AT2F

  1. Young Love 3.56 (Peter Banks/Andrew Piercy)
  2. Step by Step 3.32 (Peter Banks/Andrew Piercy)
  3. Don't Say Goodbye 3.57 (Peter Banks/Andrew Piercy)
  4. Cariba 3.03 (Peter Banks) (Instrumental)
  5. Who Do You Think You? 2.54 (Peter Banks/Andrew Piercy)

  6. Dark Side 5.05 (Peter Banks/Andrew Piercy)
  7. 1984-F 2.02 (Peter Banks) (Instrumental)
  8. Over and Over 4.12 (Peter Banks) (Instrumental)
  9. It's Over 4.04 (Peter Banks) (Instrumental)
  10. Night Is Still Falling 4.36 (Peter Banks) (Instrumental)

    Bonus tracks 2006 CD:

  11. It's Over (No Voiceover) 4.04 (Peter Banks) (Instrumental)
  12. Genz 3.09 (Peter Banks)
  13. Space Walking (Demo) 4.33 (Peter Banks) (Instrumental)
  14. Stand by Me (Demo 1) 4.35 (King/Lieber/Stoller)
  15. Stand by Me (Demo 2) 3.57 (King/Lieber/Stoller) (Angel Air Records, SJPCD218)
Recorded in 1982 at ICC Studio 2 in Eastborne.


1983 UK acetate 12" After the Fire: We Gotta Get Out (Of This Place)

    We Gotta Get Out (Of This Place) (1-sided acetate)
1983 UK promo 7" After the Fire: 8-Ball in the Top Pocket
    8-Ball in the Top Pocket (Piercy/Pope) / Deep Waters (Still Run) (Andy Piercy) (CBS A3883)
Produced by John Eden with Andy Piercy.

(Nov?) 1983 UK 7"/12" Andy Piercy (ATF): 8-Ball in the Top Pocket

    8-Ball in the Top Pocket 4.20 (Piercy/Pope) / Deep Waters (Still Run) 4.05 (Andy Piercy) (7": CBS, A3930)

    8-Ball in the Top Pocket (Extended Version) 4.58 (Piercy/Pope) // Deep Waters (Still Run) 4.05 (Andy Piercy) / One Down for the Highway 3.50 (Piercy/Pope) (12": TA 3930)

"Taken from the forthcoming LP/Cassette 'FREE HEAT'" [which remains unreleased!]


(2005) UK live DVD (+ CD) LIVE AT GREENBELT [Live Aug 2004]

  1. Intro (Thunderbirds)
  2. 1980-F
  3. Life in the City
  4. Frozen Rivers
  5. Time to Think
  6. Dancing in the Shadows
  7. Who's Gonna Love You
  8. One Rule for You
  9. Billy Billy
  10. Der Kommissar
  11. Laser Love
  12. Starflight
  13. Joy
  14. Gina 2004
    Extra Features
  15. Greenbelt Radio Interview & Unplugged Session In the Tank
  16. Photo slide show with reflections of Greenbelt, from Peter & John (DVD 6 Sep 2005: Angel Air Waves, NJPDVD623)
    CD 2006
  1. Intro (Thunderbirds)
  2. 1980-F
  3. Life in the City
  4. Frozen Rivers
  5. Time to Think
  6. Dancing in the Shadows
  7. Who's Gonna Love You
  8. One Rule for You
  9. Billy Billy
  10. Der Kommissar
  11. Laser Love
  12. Starflight
  13. Joy
  14. Gina 2004
    Bonus tracks
  15. Forged from Faith (Unplugged)
  16. Who's Gonna Love You (Unplugged) (CD 2006: Angel Air Records, SJPCD190)
Filmed live 27-30 Aug 2004 at Cheltenham Racecourse.

"On 25 August 1979, After the Fire played a legendary show at the Greenbelt Arts Festival. Twenty-five years later, After the Fire returned to play to play Greenbelt's stage two, marking a return to live performance. Originally filmed as a private record of the event, it was decided to release the show on DVD as a 'warts and all' official release!"

2005 UK CDM One Rule (For Trade Justice)

  1. One Rule (For Trade Justice) 3.51
  2. One Rule (Acappella Mix) 3.48
  3. One Rule (Gentle Mix) 3.47
  4. Wildflower 5.01 (CD-maxi: Roughmix, 985901-2)
20 June 2025 6-CD Box BRIGHT LIGHTS (1974-1983)
    CD 1 - SIGNS OF CHANGE (1978)
  1. Dance of the Marionette 7.00 (Piercy/Banks)
  2. Back to the Light 4.31 [Longer?] (Piercy/Banks)
  3. Now That I've Found 8.10 (Piercy/Banks)
  4. Signs of Change 8.04 (Piercy/Banks)
  5. Jigs 2.58 (Piercy)
  6. Pilgrim 11.22 (Piercy/Banks)
    Bonus tracks:
  7. Samaritan Woman 11.01 (Piercy/Banks) [recorded 1974/75]
  8. Dreamaway 9.50 (Piercy/Banks) [SIGNS OF CHANGE out-take]
  9. Hallelujah 6.31 (Banks) [first track ever that ATF recorded ca 1974]
  10. Back to the Light (Demo Version) 6.09 (Piercy/Banks)
    CD 2 - EARLY DEMOS & PRE-LASER LOVE DEMOS (1978-1979)
  1. Here on My Island 13.32 [Live] (Piercy/Banks) [produced by After the Fire] [digital single 2010]
  2. Psalm 5.06 [Live] (Piercy/Banks) [produced by ATF] [digital EP 2017]
  3. Choice 6.19 [Live] (Piercy/Banks) [produced by ATF] [digital EP 2017]
  4. Time to Think 3.21 [Demo Version] (Piercy/Banks) [produced by ATF] [previously unreleased]
  5. Listen to Me 3.59 [Demo Version] (Piercy/Banks) [produced by ATF] [previously unreleased]
  6. Check It Out 3.52 [Demo Version] (Piercy/Banks) [produced by ATF] [previously unreleased]
  7. You Never Told Me 3.29 [pre-Laser Love demo] (Piercy/Banks) [produced by ATF] [previously unreleased]
  8. Suspended Animation 4.59 [Demo Version] (Piercy/Banks) [produced by ATF] [previously unreleased]
  9. Can You Face It? 3.46 [pre-Laser Love demo] (Piercy/Banks) [produced by ATF] [previously unreleased]
  10. Your Love Is Alive 3.36 [Demo Version] (Piercy/Banks) [produced by ATF] [previously unreleased]
  11. Little Sun, Little Rain 3.30 [pre-Laser Love demo] (Piercy/Banks) [produced by ATF] [a shorter 3:06 version previously released on bonus CD-R in "DER KOMMISSAR: THE CBS RECORDINGS" in 2005]
  12. Beatles Medley/Help! 4.26 [pre-Laser Love demo] [produced by ATF] [a shorter 2:08 version previously released on bonus CD-R in "DER KOMMISSAR: THE CBS RECORDINGS" in 2005]
  13. Life in the City 3.13 [Demo Version] (Piercy/Banks) [produced by ATF] [previously unreleased]
  14. Like the Power of a Jet (Mix 3) 3.24 [produced by John Leckie 1979] [previously unreleased]
  15. One Rule 4.17 [Demo Version of "One Rule for You"] [produced by John Leckie 1979] [previously unreleased]
  16. Suspended Animation 3.41 [Demo Version] (Piercy/Banks) [previously unreleased]
    CD 3 - LASER LOVE (1979)
  1. Laser Love 3.28 (Piercy/Banks) [produced by Muff Winwood & Rhett Davies]
  2. Joy 3.17 (Piercy/Twidell/Russel/Banks) [produced by Rupert Hine]
  3. Take Me Higher 4.31 (Piercy/Banks) [produced by Muff Winwood]
  4. Life in the City 4.02 (Piercy/Banks) [produced by After the Fire]
  5. Suspended Animation 4.52 (Piercy/Banks) [produced by Muff Winwood]
  6. Like the Power of a Jet 3.07 (Piercy/Banks) [produced by Muff Winwood]
  7. One Rule for You 3.24 (Piercy/Banks) [produced by Rupert Hine]
  8. Time to Think 3.28 (Piercy/Banks) [produced by Muff Winwood & Rhett Davies]
  9. Timestar 4.34 (Banks) [produced by Muff Winwood]
  10. Check It Out 3.21 (Piercy/Banks) [produced by John Leckie]
    Bonus tracks:
  11. Your Love Is Alive 3.13 (Piercy/Banks) [produced by Muff Winwood] [B-side Laser Love, 1979]
  12. Life in the City 4.09 [Extended 12" Remix] (Piercy/Banks) [produced by Tony Mansfield]
  13. Listen to Me 3.22 (Piercy/Banks) [produced by After the Fire] [B-side Life in the City, 1979]
  14. One Rule For You (Live 17 Nov 1979 at the Rainbow) 4.32 [give-away 7" handed out for free at live gigs in early 1980]
  15. Time to Think (Live 17 Nov 1979 at the Rainbow) 3.46 [give-away 7" handed out for free at live gigs in early 1980]
  16. Take Me Higher (Live 14 Nov 1980 at the Rainbow) 7.47 [B-side 12" Frozen Rivers, 1981]
    CD 4 - 80-F (1980)
  1. 1980-F 2.32 (Banks)
  2. Love Will Always Make You Cry 3.30 (Piercy/Banks)
  3. Can You Face It? 3.15 (Piercy/Banks)
  4. Who's Gonna Love You (When You're Old and Fat and Ugly)? 4.05 (Piercy/Banks)
  5. Starflight 4.13 (Piercy/Banks)
  6. Wild West Show 3.30 (Piercy/Banks)
  7. Billy, Billy 4.40 (Piercy/Banks)
  8. It's High Fashion 3.07 (Piercy/Banks/Russell)
  9. Why Can't We Be Friends? 2.46 (Piercy/Banks/Russel/King)
  10. Joanne 4.20 (Piercy/Banks)
    Bonus tracks:
  11. Why Can't We Be Friends 3.48 (Piercy/Banks/Russell/King) [produced by ATF] [B-side Love Will Always Make You Cry, 1980]
  12. Every Mother's Son 2.30 (Russell/Brotherwood) [produced by Tony Mansfield] [B-side Wild West Show, 1980]
  13. Starflight 4.24 [from unreleased album version produced by Tony Mansfield] [an 2:05 excerpt was previously released on a 7" promo sampler in 1980]
  14. Love Will Always Make You Cry 4.00 [from unreleased version of 80-F produced by Tony Mansfield] [an 1:53 excerpt was previously released on a 7" promo sampler in 1980]
  15. It's High Fashion 3.18 [from unreleased version of 80-F produced by Tony Mansfield] [an 1:18 excerpt was previously released on a 7" promo sampler in 1980]
  16. 1980-F 2.36 [from unreleased version of 80-F produced by Tony Mansfield] [an 1:53 excerpt was previously released on a 7" promo sampler in 1980]
  17. Wild West Show (7" version) 3.43 [produced by Mack]
  18. Billy, Billy (Live 14 Nov 1980 at the Rainbow) 6.45 [B-side 12" Rich Boys, 1982]
  19. Another World 3.36 [from unreleased version of 80-F produced by Tony Mansfield] [a 3:38 "early rough mix" was previously released on bonus CD-R in "DER KOMMISSAR: THE CBS RECORDINGS" in 2005]
  20. Operator 3.45 [from unreleased version of 80-F produced by Tony Mansfield] [a 3:56 "demo version" was previously released on bonus CD-R in "DER KOMMISSAR: THE CBS RECORDINGS" in 2005]
  21. Satellite in Orbit 3.18 [from unreleased version of 80-F produced by Tony Mansfield] [a 3:21 "rough mix" was previously released on bonus CD-R in "DER KOMMISSAR: THE CBS RECORDINGS" in 2005]
    CD 5 - BATTERIES NOT INCLUDED (1982)
  1. Short Change 3.19 (Piercy/Banks)
  2. Frozen Rivers 3.36 (Piercy/Banks)
  3. Sometimes 3.08 (Piercy/Banks/Russell)
  4. Sailing Ship 3.57 (Piercy/Banks)
  5. I Don't Understand Your Love 2.53 (Piercy/Banks)
  6. The Stranger 3.45 (Piercy/Banks)
  7. Rich Boys 3.02 (Piercy/Banks)
  8. Carry Me Home 3.23 (Piercy/Banks)
  9. Dancing in the Shadows 3.02 (Piercy/Banks)
  10. Space Walking 3.12 (Piercy/Banks)
  11. Gina 1.38 (Piercy/Banks)
  12. Stuck in Paris (Nowhere to Go) 2.45 (Banks/King)
  13. Bright Lights 3.35 (Piercy/Banks)
    Bonus tracks:
  14. Nobody Else But You 3.13 (Piercy/Banks) [produced by Mack] [B-side Dancing in the Shadows, 1981]
  15. Starflight (Live 14 Nov 1980 at the Rainbow) 4.51 [B-side Frozen Rivers, 1981]
    CD 6 - ATF2 (1983)
  1. Young Love 3.56 (Peter Banks/Andrew Piercy)
  2. Step by Step 3.32 (Peter Banks/Andrew Piercy)
  3. Don't Say Goodbye 3.57 (Peter Banks/Andrew Piercy)
  4. Cariba 3.03 (Peter Banks) (Instrumental)
  5. Who Do You Think You? 2.54 (Peter Banks/Andrew Piercy)
  6. Dark Side 5.05 (Peter Banks/Andrew Piercy)
  7. 1984-F 2.02 (Peter Banks) (Instrumental)
  8. Over and Over 4.12 (Peter Banks) (Instrumental)
  9. It's Over 4.04 (Peter Banks) (Instrumental)
  10. Night Is Still Falling 4.36 (Peter Banks) (Instrumental)
    Bonus tracks:
  11. It's Over (No Voiceover) 4.04 (Peter Banks) (Instrumental) [from original ATF2 CD 2006]
  12. Genz 3.09 (Peter Banks) [from original ATF2 CD 2006]
  13. Space Walking (Demo) 4.33 (Peter Banks) (Instrumental) [from original ATF2 CD 2006]
  14. Stand by Me (Demo 2) 3.57 (King/Lieber/Stoller) [from original ATF2 CD 2006]
  15. I'm Bored (Demo) 4.25 [previously unreleased]
  16. Starflight (Re-worked) 4.31 [B-side 12" Dancing In The Shadows, 1983]
  17. Sternenflug 4.30 (Piercy/Banks) [produced by ATF & John Eden] [Dutch 12", 1982]
  18. Der Kommissar (Robert Pongo/Falco) 4.07 [produced by John Eden & ATF] [Single 1982]
  19. Der Kommissar (Specially Extended Remixed Version by John Eden/Peter Banks) 5.42 (Lemon Recordings, CDLEM6BX260)


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